Krups XP4050 Espresso Machine
Ok, I can’t seem to get Italy out of my system. I have been itching for our own Espresso / Cappuccino machine since we have been back in the USA and today I finally picked one up. I had ordered a machine from 1-800-espresso.com, but they ended up not having the unit I ordered in stock and it was on back order for two weeks. Cool site and there are some good product reviews on there from actual users, but I would have like to have actually received the email they said they send, after the confirmation email went out, that was informing me of the two week delay. Anyway, we had a bunch of credits at Williams Sonoma, and they are local, so I figured I would pick up the Krups XP4050 that they have listed on their website. They are selling it for $249, and I just noticed that Amazon has the same unit for $200 with free super saver shipping.
Let me say that I am pretty much a coffee noob and I like it that way. I have made it into Starbucks 2 times in my life to buy coffee and the last one I went into (on Union St.) was like a circus. I bought this machine so that I will not have to go in there anymore. So, I am in Williams Sonoma and talking to the assistant manager about this unit. She immediately makes a face and tells me that the previous unit (all black model 4000) was a complete piece of crap. She didn’t use those words, but I will paraphrase. She owned one and returned it. She also told me that she sees a large number of those units come back. The 4050 is a relatively new unit and she has not seen one come back, nor has she used it. The unit she recommended was $450, which means I would have to come out of pocket around $150. She told me that if I am not happy with the 4050, that I can bring it back and we can get something else. So, I picked one up.
Krups XP4050 Highlights
The XP405o has a couple of features that I like. First, it uses the E.S.E. pods which are basically pre-mesured coffee servings loaded into a filter pod. Kind of like a Skoal bandit if you will. No muss, no fuss, and no mess. For my first month or so, I figured it would just be easier for me to focus on the other items, like getting my milk frothed right. The XP4050 also can do single and double espressos using ground coffee with the two included “baskets”. It also offered a relatively small footprint which is good for people with smaller kitchens or who don’t want to waste a lot of counter space. It also has a dry steam frother with a “cappuccino and latte” attachment.
Krups XP4050 First Impressions
Unwrapping and packaging the XP4050 was easy. The unit comes fully assembled and is packaged securely in foam. I had it unpacked and cleaned up (the pieces that I could detach and clean) in less than 5 minutes. One thing I noticed right away was the strong smell of some kind of plastic. It was almost like burning rubber. The woman in Williams Sonoma was talking about how much plastic they used in the XP4000 and I immediately started to think about packing the thing back up. But, I figured I would give it the college try and see what happened. I filled the water tank, located in the rear of the machine, with filtered tap water (we have a dual inline filter system under our sink. From what I have read, it is a good idea to use good water in these things). The XP4050 has buttons for single and double cups of espresso on the front of the unit. After following the directions (I actually read some directions), I turned the unit on and allowedit to “warm up.” After about 30 seconds to 1 minute, and some strange noises, the unit was ready (indicated by steady lights in the buttons). I pushed the double button and the XP4050 started to kick out some steaming water 10 seconds later. After this cycle was done (about 1 minute), I took a wiff of the water that came out….it smelled like plastic. I mean it really smelled like plastic. So, I dumped it out and ran another double cycle. This time it smelled like plastic still, but not as strong. A third cycle seemed to get rid of most of the smell.
My First Cappuccino
So, I couldn’t wait any longer to see if this thing was going to make some crap or some espresso. I opened the tin of Illy E.S.E. decaffeinated (yeah, I know) and trimmed up a pod to throw into the basket. I realized later that they are perforated and there is no need for scissors to do this. The pods are only good for a single espresso, so I popped it in, hit the single button and about 1o seconds later, out came some coffee. The smell was great and I was getting pretty pumped.
With the coffee done, I moved to the froth part. I tried the “cappuccino and latte” attachement or whatever they call it. Basically, you pop it on the steamer deal and it has a hose that you put into your milk while placing your espresso under the end of the steamer. This thing is a piece of crap. First it did not draw up the milk into the piece. On my second attempt, it drew the milk up, but did not make any froth. Whatever. I try the espresso / latte and it was pretty bitter. I drank the whole cup to really get a good idea of what I liked and disliked. I liked the temperature of the coffee, but it was really pretty bitter. I am not sure if it was because it was decaffeinated or what, but I will try another one in a little bit with Danielle.
My Second Cappuccino
So, a little later I decide to give things another try. This time, I work on getting the frother working. I take off the “automatic frother” attachment and put on the normal frother piece. This thing has two holes in the bottom, one a little lower down than the other. The higher hole draws in liquid and then shoots it, along with “dry steam” back out the other hole. The idea is to keep the container still and not put the frother attachment so far down that it touches the bottom. Soon, you have froth and creamy milk underneath. Also, you want to use cold, non-fat milk, it froths better.
Now that I have a cup full of great froth, I pop in a regular espresso E.S.E. pod and hit the single button. Out comes a great smelling brown liquid, that actually has some great crema on top. Crema is what you get on the top of the espresso (as I understand it) which comes from the oils in the coffee beans. A product of the proper grind, heat and other factors when brewing. Anyway, I spoon in some froth and then some of the milk and take my cappuccino over to the computer. It was pretty darn good.
So, at this point, I figure I will use this thing for a couple of weeks and learn to use it better. I am sure there is some technique to using this thing and I am a complete rookie at this point. Also, I would like to get some freshly ground coffee into the unit and see how it performs, but I have to say that using the pods is super easy and clean. The basket is totally clean after I pop out the pod and I simply rinsed the basket and holder out with hot water for a few seconds after use. The frother requires that you run some water through it to keep dry milk from clogging the unit up.
June 15, 2006 Update
Well, this morning I ran a few fresh water double cups through the Krups and they smelled like plastic. I am not talking about the plastic smell like you can detect on the inside of something like a Rubbermaid pitcher. I am talking about a smell like burning tires. I have no idea how this is really possible, and I am assuming that it will go away if I let the thing air out for a few days. I have narrowed down one of the sources of the strong scent to the water container. This makes a whole lot of sense to me. Why the hell would you use something to hold the water for the coffee that smells like burning tires? Maybe I am missing something here?
I have decided to fill up the water container when I am not using it and flush that water when I want to use it. I am also leaving the cover over the water container open. I am headed to NYC for a wedding tonight, and if that thing still smells like a pile of burning tires when I get back, it is going back to Williams Sonoma. In either case, I am not sure why Krups would use something that smells so terrible on a product like an espresso machine. Part of the allure of such a device is the great aromas that it produces when brewing coffee. But, if the thing smells like a burning toxic waste site the rest of the time, or after, it pretty much ruins the whole deal. WTF?

December 17th, 2006 at 11:56 pm
Hello,
I have a trick about the burning rubber smell. I get that too. I find it happens when I leave the brewer on for two long. I can tell when it is going to happen as the machine becomes quite loud. Then, the smell happens and the coffee tastes burnt, bitter and plasticy. If I turn off the machine before the loud noise begins, my coffee tastes much better.
February 16th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Thank goodness. I thought I was even more nuts than usual. I even called Krups “Product Information” line, and the person I talked to denied ever having heard this complaint.
As you know, it’s the plastic water tank. Mine stank from the moment the plastic tank came out of its plastic packaging. Nothing I did (baking soday, dishwasher liquid, airing out) helped much.
Online advice (google deodorizing plastic) is to stuff the thing with with newspaper and let it sit. Overnight certainly helped. The smell diminished for some time. But it has been since November (at least), and we still get that wiff of toxic waste, particularly, as Tiffiany noted, when the machine is in use and tank warm.
If you find a better, more permanent solution (preferably one that doesn’t involve trading in for another brand), please publish it.
Meantime, if you still have the problem (this is February 2007), try the newspaper. It does help. It can’t hurt.
rh
March 3rd, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Thanks for the site. It was helpful. Having the same problem with the plastic taste, but I will try the newspaper. I have been having a problem withe the machine taking way too long to be ready to make the froth after making an espresso. The buttons continue to blink stating it is not ready forever. I unplug the machine to cool down and after twenty minutes I am able to get the machine to work again. I am thinking I need to create the froth first, then the espresso. Will try that next time. Any advice is great appreciated.
Jason
March 20th, 2007 at 1:23 am
We have had the machine since November. I am not having the problems with a plastic-y smell as I never leave the machine on longer than I need for pulling the coffee. However, the coffee , espresso, always seems to have a bitter after-taste. I assumed it was the espresso I had been using and have tried several different kinds, to no avail.
Maybe I will try the newspaper.
ps That cappunccino attachment is really piece of junk.
April 18th, 2007 at 6:38 am
bottom line, do you or not recommend this machine? i was going to get it b/c it was ok-ish on consumer reports and affordable. i was trying to decide between this machine and starbucks version.
thanks.
April 18th, 2007 at 7:54 am
I would not recommend it with the espresso pods. To be honest, I have not spent the time grinding my own coffee in the morning and like the convenience of the pods. I still use it, but the espresso is on the bitter side. I am just waiting untill I am ok with spending $1,500 on an espresso machine.
July 17th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Like Erin, I was going to purchase this based on Consumer Reports but after reading your site, I’m back to researching. Have you found an affordable espresso machine since your last post in April that you like? I’ve had my Starbucks Barista for about 10 years and it’s just now starting to have problems. It’s be a great machine and I’m tempted to buy another but I just don’t want to spend the money. Thanks!
August 10th, 2007 at 7:23 am
I researched quite a few espresso machines a few months back and was looking at the Krups 4050 (I saw some great reviews), along with the one I got - a Delonghi EC460 pump espresso machine. I haven’t had any problems with the Delonghi at all, and it makes a great espresso/cappuccino…crema & frothing were great. I haven’t had the plastic smell/taste with it - something I’m experiencing with my regular coffee maker I got from Gevalia. They sent me a second coffee maker, but I’m getting the same plastic smell/taste - no matter what I do. At close inspection, it’s made in China and, with all the scrutiny China is under these days for unsafe manufacturing, I’m looking for one that is made anywhere but China. (a difficult task, I’m sure) Good luck with your Krups!
September 30th, 2007 at 10:37 am
I have a KRUPS machine since Dec 06 and rarely use it because of that horrible plastic smell. It’s definitely the water tank. I’m going to try the newspaper trick and I’m crossing my fingers it’ll work! I’m tired of spending $3+ on lattes when I have this machine at home… If you hear of any other tricks, post them! I’ll try anything at this point. Thanks!
October 9th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Bought a Krups xp4030. The water resevoir has a strong plastic smell. Espresso has a mild plastic taste, the steam has a strong plastic smell, and steamed milk has a strong plastic taste. Called customer service, but they were little help. It’s going back in the box and back to the store!
October 9th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
I understand your frustration Lee, that is if you are still conscious. My XP4050 now makes pretty darn great cappucinos sans strong plastic toxic smells. I think the key is to take the water container out of the machine and put it outside for a few days where it can air out. I let ours sit out for a week or two and that made a huge difference. Letting it go through a dozen heat up / cool down cycles will help as well. It is an inexpensive machine made from plastic. I don’t think it should smell toxic, but to be honest, I don’t think anyone should expect it to be just as good as a $500 or $1500 machine either.
It actually makes espresso that is far better than anything we can buy here in San Francisco, and I think that is pretty good for $250.
November 25th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
I bought a Krups XP4050 2 month ago. I never had the mysterious plastic/rubber smell or taste. My family has been using it to make about 4-5 espressos per day over the two months and we have been very impressed with this little unit. I have not used the steamer for lattes or cappuccino so I can’t comment on that. If you plan to use this primarily for espresso then I think this is a very good “budget” espresso maker. I had worse espressos in France and Italy made on far more expensive machines!
January 6th, 2008 at 8:23 am
I`ve just bought the XP 4000 and I`m quite pleased so far. How ever I sometimes get a major leakage underneath the machine. Also, after about 10 made cups, a little plastic thing fell out off it, I think from the water shelf. Anybody had the same experience?
Sorry for the bad english
February 7th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
George,
I had a small dark grey plastic piece fall out of the machine and into the drip tray - I think it goes in the back of the drip tray to hold the drip tray.
I also have the plastic smell problem. Customer service hasn’t heard of it - and from what I read here, even if I spent the $15.00 for a new water reservoir, it probably would smell.
My short term solution is to empty the reservoir and fill it and use the espresso machine right away. If your machine doesn’t heat, push down the reservoir.
It took me a while to get used to this espresso - I was used to burnt espresso from Starbucks!